Express Entry – How to find your NOC? Here is the secret…

When applying for immigration to Canada through the Express Entry system, it is absolutely essential that you get your NOC right. By following these few short tips, you can significantly increase your chances of ensuring your position is properly identified and you actually get the points you deserve for your skilled work experience.

However, if at any stage you feel like you’d need some extra guidance and a help of an immigration lawyer in checking your application before you send it over to IRCC, please consider booking a paid consultation with one of the lawyers at Holthe Immigration Law:

What’s so important about the NOC codes?

Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) uses the 2016 National Occupational Classification system to classify jobs in Canadian labour market (IRCC does not use NOC 2021 version of the classification system). One of the most important ways of occupational classification NOC system is NOC Skill Levels. If your foreign work experience in not considered to be “Skilled” (NOC Skill Levels B or higher) for the purposes of IRCC, then you will not receive any points for work experience under the Express Entry system.

Further, when it comes to language testing for candidates who have been given an Invitation to Apply (ITA) for permanent resident status through the Canadian Experience Class, the actual Skill Level will determine whether or not you must meet an English language benchmark of CLB 5 (for Skill Level B) or CLB 7 (for Skill Level A or 0). For those applying under the Federal Skilled Worker Program, the minimum CLB is 7 regardless of the Skill Level.

In addition to NOC Skill Levels, the NOC system assigns a specific 4 digit code to every position recognized within the database. Getting this 4 digit code correct for your position can mean the difference between success and failure within the Express Entry system.

So how do you find your NOC code? Let me show you how….

A full step-by-step guide on how to choose your National Occupational Classification NOC code.

How to classify Canadian work experience (with an LMIA)

The starting point differs depending upon whether or not you are currently working in Canada under an LMIA confirmed work permit. If this is the case, you can start by checking out the NOC assigned to your LMIA confirmation.

In most cases, the NOC assigned to your LMIA should be consistent with the NOC 2016 database. However, if you were issued one of those magically 5 year LMIAs, then you might just want to check the NOC 2016 and ensure the four digit NOC listed on your LMIA confirmation matches with the NOC 2016 database.

Illegal Work in Canada

Provided you were not working illegally in another position or performing duties that were not originally approved under you original LMIA, you can safely use the NOC code listed (or its equivalent under the 2016 NOC) in completing your Express Entry application.

However, If you did work illegally, you have a whole host of other problems to deal with including potential misrepresentation if you try to fudge things on your application. If you find yourself in this situation, I recommend that you contact an immigration lawyer to see if there is anything that can be done to rectify the situation. However, in most cases, there is very little we can do as IRCC does not have too much sympathy for someone who has wilfully chosen to break the law.

I can’t help but hear in my mind the old song my grandfather used to play for me as a kid called “Happy Trails” by Roy Rodgers and Dale Evans.  This pretty much sums up the situation for illegal workers in Canada.

How to classify Foreign or Canadian experience (without an LMIA)

The starting point for foreign or Canadian work experience, that is not supported by an LMIA, is your “job title“. This is not always conclusive; however, this is where you need to start.

IRCC has a great little tool for helping you search for your position by title. All you need to do is type the title of your job into the search field entitled: “Filter items” and the list will be sorted to most closely match what your job title would be under the 2016 NOC. See the image below.

If you have work experience as a “Cook”, here are the typical search results:


You can see from the displayed list that the 4 digit NOC for Cooks is “6322” and the corresponding Skill Level is “B”. This tells us that work experience gained as a cook, does qualify under the Express Entry system. However, if you worked as a Food Counter Attendant, this experience will not qualify because it is classified as Skill Level “D”.

Now don’t think your assessment is done at this stage. This is just the starting point. The next step is to confirm that your actual job duties (the ones you actually performed on a daily basis) match with the job duties set out in the position profile of the NOC you have been assigned.

If you were able to locate your position on the IRCC list, then you can simply click on the hyperlink of that position and it will take you to the profile. Once you have opened up your position, skip to STEP 4 below for “Confirming that you selected the right NOC“.

If you were not able to locate your position by searching your title, you will need to go directly to the 2016 NOC data base to manually search for your position.

You can search the 2016 NOC in the following ways:

STEP 1 –  Job Title 

Simply enter the title of your job in the box provided under the “Quick Search” field.” This is located in the blue highlighted area below.

A list of potential matches will be displayed. If this doesn’t work, then go to Step 2. If it does work, then skip to Step 4 below.

STEP 2 – Search the NOC…

Because you have already tried to search for your title directly and came up with nothing, I recommend that you enter any number of key words that closely resemble your title or the duties that you performed. You can do this in the “Quick Search” field.  Let’s say I am trying to find the NOC for a Crime Scene Investigator (CSI). I have tried to search for “Crime Scene Investigator” but the search results reveal nothing.

So the next thing to do is try to determine if your job is also known by another title. In my CSI example, I also know that CSIs are also “Forensic Scientists”. So try to search similar titles for your position. If this fails, then try to enter job duties that you perform in your position. By searching various key words associated with the duties you perform, this should create a more comprehensive list of jobs than would normally come up by searching your title alone. However, sometimes even this doesn’t seem to find the right position. If this is the case, you need to go to Step 3.

STEP 3 – Occupational Structure

In order to make this work, you have to be able to properly identify your industry from the list provided.

Once you have selected your industry, the next level will be the Major Group, followed by the Subgroup associated with your job. Find the group that most closely matches your job and from there it is relatively simple to find at least two or three positions that closely resemble your job.

In the image above, you can see that both Chefs and Cooks are listed within Subgroup “632 Chefs and cooks“. By clicking on the “6322 Cooks” link, you will be taken to the exact position profile for Cooks.

STEP 4 – Confirming that you selected the right NOC

This is probably the most important step of all.

Because of the standardized methodology used by the government when creating the National Occupational Classification System, it is entirely possible to select a position within the 2011 NOC that has the exact same title as your job, but in actuality is not a proper match.

Normally, I do not quote specific sections of the Immigration legislation in my blogs. However,  in this case, I am going to make an exception. It is critical that you understand the legal reasons why your work experience can be rejected by an immigration officer.

I have set out below, a portion of the Ministerial Instructions for the Express Entry Application Management System,  which describe who a Skilled Worker is for the purposes of the Express Entry System. The first section relates to Canadian work experience and the second relates to foreign work experience.

In order to be assigned points for your skilled work experience, you must be able to show that you have:

·       performed the actions described in the lead statement for the occupation;

·       a substantial number of the main duties, and

·       including all essential duties, as set out in the National Occupational Classification.

Breaking down the NOC position profile into its “essential parts”

Each job profile within the NOC 2011 describes each of these factors. If you can demonstrate that your position encompasses each of these factors, then you know you have the right NOC. If however, you have not performed the activities in the lead statement or are missing a substantial number of the main duties, then you can safely assume that this NOC is not for you.

So let’s take a closer look at the position profile for a cook (6322) within the 2011 NOC. Based on IRCC’s requirements above, you must perform all of the actions described below:

There is nothing too complicated about this. The lead statement is quite general, so if you cook food for a living – pretty much anywhere – you are in….at least so far!

Now let’s take a look at the main duties. Remember, you have to be able to establish that you performed a “substantial number” of the main duties.

So what constitutes a “substantial number” of the main duties?

Well, it has always been my position that substantial means “most”. However, there are some exceptions. In fact, this is the exact reason I chose the position of cook as an example.

There are nine main duties listed. However, not all appear to be mandatory (Maybe mandatory is not quite the best term; however, it works well enough for the purposes of this blog.)

In fact, only 5 out of the 9 listed are mandatory. Let me explain why.

If you ever see a duty, or an employment requirement that indicates “may” or “usually” within the NOC, you can assume the requirement is optional. You would still be considered a “full fledge” cook if you did not set up and oversee buffets, clean the kitchen and work area, plan menus, determine size of food portions, estimate food requirements and costs, and monitor and order supplies; or hire and train kitchen staff. However, you would still need to have performed a substantial number of the remaining 5 duties.

Finally, we need to take look at what the regulations call “essential duties”.

In all honesty, I don’t have a clue what they mean by “essential duties”. If you are one of those super intelligent people out there that can explain this to me, please comment below and enlighten us all. However, if you are like me and have never really seen a NOC profile description that specifically identifies “essential duties” then welcome to the club.

How do the “Employment Requirements” in the NOC Profile Relate to Express Entry

Please note that as a starting point, you DO NOT have to meet the minimum “Employment Requirements” in order to get credit for your foreign work experience when apply through Express Entry. However, I still think it is important to understand how they do fit into the picture if you are one of those very lucky people to have a job offer from a Canadian employer that is supported by an LMIA, or another work permit option under the International Mobility Program.

As stated previously, although I do not quite “get” the essential duty thing, I do understand the “Employment requirements” thing that is built into every NOC. In addition to being able to perform the actions in the lead statement and a substantial number of the main duties, in the context of a Canadian work permit, employment requirements can not be overlooked.

I can’t tell you how many work permits I have seen refused because a foreign national does not have the specific education or work experience requirements listed in the NOC for their proposed position. This typically occurs after companies have spent thousands of dollars obtaining an LMIA only to see that the candidate they chose does not qualify for the position based upon IRCC’s requirements (essentially the NOC requirements).

So let’s take a look at the employment requirements for a Cook.

The first place to start is to determine what is “mandatory” (remember, I don’t really have a better word) and what is “optional”. This can be easily done by applying the “may = optional” and “are required = mandatory” rule.

Completion of secondary school is “usually required”.

This means it is not mandatory. If you didn’t graduate, you are okay so far.

Completion of a three-year apprenticeship program for cooks OR completion of college or other program in cooking OR several years of commercial cooking experience “are required”.

Because this ends in “are required“, then this is mandatory. However, because of the “ORs” inserted between each requirement, it means you only need to satisfy oneof the above three and not all of them.

So, if you never graduated from school, but have “several years” of commercial cooking experience, then you are good to go.

“NOTE: remember that “several years” is often interpreted as at least 3 years by IRCC.”

Trade certification is available, but voluntary, in all provinces and territories.

I think it goes without saying that “voluntary” means just that. However, I do want to point out that many “trade” positions are regulated in Canada and if you ever run into a trade such as welding, pay close attention to whether or not it is a regulated AND compulsory trade in your Province of destination.

Now, failing to meet the minimum employment requirements will not impact on your Express Entry application; however, in the context of work permits, it can be a deal killer. So pay attention if you anticipate applying for a work permit before your Express Entry application is completed.

Red Seal endorsement is also available to qualified cooks upon successful completion of the Interprovincial Red Seal examination.

Once again, “available” is also one of the optional factors that really doesn’t impact on your Express Entry application.

Wrapping things up

There is definitely a lot to remember when searching for your proper NOC. However, if you start with the IRCC tool for matching titles to NOC codes, your battle is often won at this stage. All that remains is following my instructions above to evaluate the duties and employment requirements in order to confirm you got the right one. If you weren’t so luck with the IRCC tool, then following the remaining steps above should help you drill down to your exact position.

Need help with your determining your NOC code or completing Express Entry Application for Permanent Residence in Canada?

In order to help as many people as possible navigate the complexities of the Express Entry program, I created a complete step-by-step Video Express Entry Course to show you how to do it yourself. You can subscribe to the Course here:

However, if you feel like you would need some extra guidance and a help of an immigration lawyer in checking your application before you send it over to IRCC, please consider booking a paid consultation with one of the lawyers at Holthe Immigration Law:

 

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